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activities, please see the list information page for more information.
Please note: Russell gets lots of email.
If you wish to ask a question about ARM Linux, please ask it on these
mailing lists rather than directing it to Russell's email addresses.
You'll stand a better chance of getting a reply. Thanks.
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Notes:
- Note 1 - SPAM (or unsolicited commericial email)
We operate an anti-spam policy on the mailing lists. Although we attempt
to prevent as much spam getting to the mailing lists as possible using
various techniques, we aren't always successful.
However, the list server is set up to detect messages received from
a possible spam source ("open email relay" or just "open relay"), and
will mark messages believed to be from such an "open relay" with a
X-RBL-Warning header. These headers contain information
describing why the system believes you are a source of spam.
The list server ignores this header and will pass the message
to subscribed individuals. However, the action taken by these individuals
upon receiving such a message is a decision that they are free to make.
Please note, however, that if the system relaying your email to these
lists is classified as an "open email relay", we are unable to
resolve this; please do not contact us. It is a matter between you
and your Internet Service Provider to resolve with the appropriate
RBL system. Please see mail-abuse.org
and/or www.spews.org for more
information on the subject of RBL.
- Note 2 - Sender Verification
Email to these mailing list(s) (and @arm.linux.org.uk addresses) has
the "envelope from address" (the email address which appears in the
SMTP MAIL FROM: command) checked for validity. Invalid
envelope from addresses are rejected. A typical rejection message
includes one of the following phrases:
451 Sender verify callout did not complete
550 Sender verify failed
In the latter case, you should see some additional 550 lines describing
the exact nature of the failure, eg:
550-Verification failed for <xxx@yyy.zzz>
550-Called: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
550-Sent: RCPT TO:<xxx@yyy.zzz>
550-Response: 550 unknown user
550 Sender verify failed
The envelope from address is used to send error messages to the sender
of the message (see RFC2821
section 3.3). Unfortunately, because the envelope address is invalid,
error messages are unable to reach you, so you will never know whether
your message failed to reach any recipient you mail.
In addition, some sites block the SMTP MAIL FROM:<>
syntax, believing it to be a spam source. This is unacceptable since
the special MAIL FROM:<> is used to send error messages
back to the message originator, as described by
RFC2821 section 3.7
with additional discussion in 4.5.5. As a result, messages
originating from such systems will also be rejected.
Please note that some ISPs mail servers incorrectly respond with a
5xx permanent error code when they are processing a
lot of email, rather than a 4xx temporary error code.
This can cause the verification to fail unexpectedly, and your message
will be rejected. This is due to non-RFC2821 compliant email software,
and is a problem for that only your ISP can resolve.
- Note 3 - Explicit Congestion Notification
This list server uses Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN)
(RFC3168), which is
a TCP extension to reduce congestion in the Internet backbone
infrastructure, and provide a better overall service to the Internet
as a whole. However, there are two caveats:
- Some routers had buggy firmware which refuses packets with ECN;
vendors have released updates for these routers. Please see the
ECN-under-Linux Unofficial
Vendor Support Page for more information.
- Some firewalls have been setup which deny packets using the ECN
protocol (which date from the pre-ECN time.)
Any of the above listed reasons can cause the envelope verification (see
note 2) to fail, normally with the 451 code, thereby
rejecting your email.
- Note 4 - SMTP EHLO/HELO names
The SMTP commands EHLO and HELO are followed by the mail "domain" name
of the host connecting to the mail server. This domain name must be
acceptable according to the rules given in
RFC2821 section 2.3.5.
Hosts using invalid domain names will have their connection terminated,
and therefore will be unable to send email to this list.
Unfortunately, Microsoft(R) Windows(R) traditionally allows the machine
name to contain an underscore (_) which, when used, violates the SMTP
specification. Please ensure that any Microsoft(R) Windows(R) machines
are configured correctly according to the accepted Internet Standards
published by the Internet Engineering
Task Force if they are going to be part of the Internet.
- Note 5 - New threads as Replies
There have been lots of people on these mailing lists using the "Reply"
button in their mail client to start a new message thread. This is bad
because it breaks message threading in the archives and mail readers,
leading to new threads being lost amonst unrelated older threads.
In order to prevent this happening, these mailing lists have filters which
detect such behaviour, and hold such messages for review. If it is found
that the message is starting a new thread, it will be rejected; please do
not using the "Reply" button lazily.
Conversely, there are various mail readers which do not include the
necessary message headers for message threading to work, and these posts
will also be held.
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